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What Is "Stoner Rock"?

As suggested by the 7th Yarba. Definitions, bands thought of as being relevant in this sub-genre, tracks by same which you think could/should be aired, etc. Let it fly here...

Discussion started by -valis Hertel , on 1485 days ago
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Dan Kinney
I must say Gong would probably fit the genre of "stoner" rock. The whole premise of the "Radio Gnome" trilogy is based on marijuana, i.e. The Pothead Pixies...
689 days ago
 
7th Yarba
thanks michael - will check out ufommat, in a doom/stoner/sludge groove atm - angelic process are the current addiction
1371 days ago
 
7th Yarba
the new quest for fire album 'lights from paradise' has some good moments
1371 days ago
 
-valis Hertel
"On the list" Michael. Thanks! Keep 'em coming friends.
1460 days ago
 
michael
Valis,

Add to the list: Acid King and Sons of Otis.

7th- if you dig those bands, try Ufomammut.
1465 days ago
 
7th Yarba
so i've been listening to stoner rock and i think i have some good suggestions. 'The Emerald Snow of Sleep' off the album Unonou by Danava has the wacky retro synth sounds i'm currently addicted to 'Snakepit' from the Heads 1988 album 'The Time is Now' has a nice psychedelic edge and i love the melancholia and guitar-freakouts of 'Legavaan Satellite' - actually i love the whole album but it might be closer to space rock than stoner rock - will have to start a space rock discussion topic at some point. 'wobble' off their 2000 album 'Everybody Knows We got Nowhere' might make a nice sequey, anything by kyuss. Doom bands cross into this stoner zone to my ears - becoming a fan of Queen Elephantine, like Rameses iii just for the bit where he goes 'kill them all!' but all there best ones are so long, bit like Sun O))) in that rspect, need time for the waves of reverb to develop - liking 'search for the detahless state' off kailash - also on their the next track Gloaming has sitar on it, in fact the whole kailash album is pretty good, dark but good. Black Pyramid i like but more doom metal - i think its quite stoner though. Brain Police 'One Blow' is only 1 min long, and then some heavy riffage kciks off their eponymusly titled album nicely before it becomes just like Pearl Jam or something - i have noticed the Pearl Jam influence in stoner rock and not sure if i like it. another stoner type ban called Ten Benson were quite good - currently listening to Desert Sessions vol 9&10 is pretty good. really i want to pull out proto-stoner classics from the vaults as i'm sure hawkwind and uriah heep etc have their stoner moments (when not being spacey that is) will keep listening and let you know what i find

1481 days ago
 
-valis Hertel
From RYM:

" Stoner Rock combines Blues Rock, the psychedelic elements from Psychedelic Rock, and the repetitive riffs of Doom Metal. Guitars are tuned low, the bass is heavy and tempo is mostly slow-to-mid. The vocals and production are usually raw.

The term stoner rock comes from the genre's connection with the use of marijuana, stoner being a slang term for a user of cannabis. It is sometimes believed that the bass heavy and psychedelic sound is meant to enhance the effects of drugs. The roots are in '60s and '70s bands like Black Sabbath and Blue Cheer, but what is called Stoner Rock today was pioneered by Californian bands such as Kyuss, Sleep and Fu Manchu. "

1484 days ago
 
7th Yarba
after much deliberation i came to a conclusion, namely that stoner rock per se requires both the creating musician and the listener to be simultaneously stoned in order to harmonize on the same frequency - ha! i thought problem solved, or so i thought...i then realised that many square musicians through history have beeen stoners, such as jason donovan, george micheal etc and surely it follows that some of their listeners must also have been stoned therefore making their recordings by this criteria stoner rock. this issue is (i guess expectedly) very very confusing, i feel confused now and shall re-visit my drawing board. as you were.
1484 days ago
 
-valis Hertel
Keep 'em coming..! (Excepting Mr. Sweet, of course.)
1485 days ago
 
michael
Since 7th Yarba mentioned them, I think Nebula- Fly On off Sun Creature would fit the purpose. Sorry Valis, it's a long one though at 9min.

OM- Meditation Is the Practice of Death, although Cremation Ghat II has sitar in it that would fit fit sitar show too.

Other bands might be: 35007, Monkey3, La Otracina, something off Brant Bjork's Jalamanta album, Bardo Pond, and man, I'm getting too distracted with this music on my iPOd...
1485 days ago
 
-valis Hertel
Hmmm.., methinks bobEE may be in line for some Dodgeball with these "melon sized rocks." (Though not mentioning that patchouli-wearing mob from San Fran' who purportedly make music for the tin-eared has me reducing my melon pile by three rocks.)
1485 days ago
 
bobEE Sweet
While there is a certain redundancy to the title it was useful to a mostly oral culture that developed this term around 7 BC for use during punishment rituals. Rocks needed to both big enough to do physical damage as well as light enough to throw. These melon sized rocks soon fell out of favor when burning at the stake became the most popular form of punishment, but the term Stoner Rock has stayed with us till today, in the 1970s for example it's adherents had liking for the boot cut jean, 3/4 length t-shirts and hiking boots. Some states with budget issues are considering a return to this economic form of justice.
1485 days ago
 

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